As a ex-subscriber of your content, Crowder don't be a coward debate Sam Seder.
For those who are not familiar with what happened, give me a honest opinion:
Steven Crowder point of view:
Steven Crowder (24:20 in timeline)
Sam Seder & Ethan Klein point of view: H3H3 Podcast Mind that this is not the first time he got #ColdFeet xD: Politicon, Gavin McInnis
Steven Crowder, Dave Rubin.... all of these guys are portrayed as people who are eager to engage in the battlefield of ideas, but strangely they are exclusively engaged with college students or right-wingers. I have no problem with right wing politics or ideas being discussed on Crowder's show but for a person who goes around saying that people from the left don't engage with him because the lefties are afraid, this debate seems like the perfect opportunity for just that. The hypocrisy does not end there, the IDW is seen as the anti-cancel-culture group of intellectuals. Then again these guys goes around calling Sam Seder to apologize for his words, because Sam hurts their feels?? idk. Why are they cancelling Sam Seder? are they really the anti-pc, anti-cancel-culture group that they proclaim to be? or just a reactionary force who does not care about these issues in a principled way and uses these same tactics for their side?? For those whom running to the comment box to call me out for advertising Sam's content I haven't linked any one of his video's. People in their self interest, if they wanna check his channel out I'm not responsible.
I agree with Delta. Be specific. Pick a quote from Crowder that you disagree with.
Crowder’s show is a shining example of the weaponized misinformation and disinformation widely propagated by the American Right-wing. His claims are often factually incorrect, grossly misinformed, mired in disingenuous rhetoric, or directly meant as a personal attack.
Take Crowder‘s multiple spats with Carlos Maza from Vox, where Crowder immediately takes the moral high ground by repeatedly calling Maza a “lispy queer“ or “gay mexican” and releasing a line of shirts that state “Carlos Maza is a f_g.” Ad Hominems and harassment are not good looks for anyone who even passingly considers himself worthy of “debate,” but since the literal schoolyards of America are the places Crowder feels comfortable, then so be it.
To exemplify the laughable ignorance exuberantly repeated by Crowder, he has made such claims as: “The Nazi’s were Socialists” (this has been a pet project of mine) and “We have PROOF of Voter Fraud” and “DOMINION SYSTEMS WERE ELECTION FRAUD.”
It‘s a major leap to assume that Crowder would even begin to argue in *any* semblance of “good-faith” if his track record is like this, so karma seems to have bit him back in this instance. It seems, like most on the right-wing, he can dish it out ad nauseam, but can’t take it.
I'm not familiar with Sam Seder. All I know is that Crowder refused this debate because he was deceived into a sort of ambush situation with him by Ethan Klein, and didn't want to legitimize that deception. I'm not familiar with the other examples you mentioned, but I'd also note that not wanting to do something is not the same as being afraid of it. Just because sometimes I don't want to wake up in the morning doesn't mean I'm afraid of being awake.
As for the claims leveled against the IDW writ large. Our very own Travis Pangburn set up multiple debates involving Jorda Peterson, who conversed with opposing legitimate intellectual Sam Harris (Also IDW) and Matt Dillahunty. Peterson has also debated Slavoj Zizek. These debates were actually debates, there were disagreements.
As for other members of the dark web- while Shapiro may have a reputation of dunking on college students who challenge him, he debated Cenk Uygur of the young Turks at Politicon a few years ago and has appeared to don multiple panels with opposing academics. Other members of the IDW are either not exactly debate types (Joe Rogan), or I'm unfamiliar with them.
You raise interesting questions here, and I truly don't mean to jump down your throat, but you're drawing some sweeping morally consequential conclusions here with an extremely scanty basis beyond conjecture. You speculate about the motive for Crowder's debate avoidance, your flagship example being a deceptive ambush, then you call into question the integrity and principle of all members of the IDW based on the idea they all just don't like and respect Sam Seder enough to talk to him? Again- a bold claim, possibly true, but with not nearly evidence to support the notion.
(Final note- Cancel culture is a culture and behavior that attempts to completely ruin a person's life based on some disagreement: career, reputation, everything. Disassociating from a person because you don't like them is not remotely comparable to cancel culture as commonly understood. Mentioning on a podcast you don't like a person and won't engage with them is not cancel culture. As far as I'm aware no IDW member has made active calls for Sam Seder to lose a job, or be ostracized or anything of that nature. The comparison simply isn't accurate.)
I would like to publish this as an article on this site. Are you okay with that?